GPS Spoofing - Unlockable Reward?

GPS spoofers aren’t just cheating themselves—they’re undermining one of Pikmin Bloom’s core ideas: that Big Flowers and coins are supposed to encourage you to go outside, explore, and build your own little adventure through the real world.

Instead, you can often see obvious straight-line paths jumping from Big Flower to Big Flower, cutting directly through buildings and other impossible terrain. By the time legitimate players actually reach those places, the flowers have already been bloomed by someone who was never physically there.

More importantly, this makes a mockery of the coin system. Legitimate players have to actually walk, plant flowers, manage petals, and spend time outside to work toward their daily coins. Spoofers can automate that process and effectively guarantee the daily limit in a fraction of the time.

So is Scopely Explore (sorry you inherited Niantic’s problem- it’s now is your problem) actually supposed to be monetizing this system and taking it seriously? Or does allowing this to continue year after year send the message that everyone else’s effort is pointless and that we should all just be using GPS spoofing to max our coins every day?

It also makes flower petals feel like a pointless reward. Why carefully collect and manage petals for exploration when someone else can bee-line from flower to flower and bloom everything before you even get there?

At some point, allowing spoofing this openly doesn’t just affect individual players. It undermines the entire premise of a game built around physically going outside and exploring.

As a separate suggestion: if GPS spoofing genuinely can’t be stopped after 3+ years, then why not level the playing field and give everyone some form of location-spoofing ability?

At this point, spoofing is already being indirectly permitted through lack of enforcement. The only difference is that legitimate players are punished for following the rules while bot users get access to an extremely powerful feature for free.

If that broken advantage is apparently here to stay, then maybe it should become an actual game mechanic—something legitimate players can earn, unlock, or use within limits. At least then the people who have actually spent years walking, planting, and playing the game properly aren’t the only ones excluded from it.

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I totally agree. If PB is not going to deal with cheaters, then let us all fly to other locations.

But I also want to remind the PB official that using a spoofing app is not difficult. Most legitimate players don’t use those apps because we want to actually play the game without creating problems to other people.

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本質を指摘する素晴らしいポストなのでリプライします。日本語だけど翻訳してください。:grinning_face:

うえに書いたお二方の意見を私の言葉で言い換えると、

「正直者が馬鹿を見る状況を放置あるいは容認する運営はとても不誠実である」

ということです。

運営チームへ、外を実際に冒険して(自分の足で)その体験をリードする、という当初のコンセプトを忘れないでください。嫌ならこのゲームサービスを終わらせるべきです。

(追記)Ingressではかろうじて技術的な解決アプローチをユーザに示していて、ユーザがそれを認識できている。この点であのプロダクトは及第点だと思っていますが、Pikmin Bloomでは今のところ全くこの要素が見えていません。

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Thank you for your reply!

Depending on what you count as a “Teleport ability”, there’s already a “Summon anyone anywhere” item with the Bullhorns that mushroom have. And they’re already the best way to get nectar in-game (Counting normal/Big elemental and non-elemental ones) both in number and passively

While it would be great to access mushrooms/flowers from a bigger distance, there’s a thing that is really the core of this problem:

Many of PB’s mechanics (specifically 5-slot mushrooms and the 1h time limit after big flower blooming to get the fruits) didn’t survive the onslaught of cheaters that has popped up in the last few months

All you really have to do is adress the scarcity of these drops; I.E.: you have to plant 150 flowers in the area of the Big flower after the 1h time limit after blooming to still get the fruit of that flower.

Maybe also remove the 5-slot mushroom limit, and many of the problems would be aleviated.

Of course, the best way would be for Scopley to stand up, and create an Anticheat or a way to Reliably report, and track those reports, and ban players in PB.

I seriously hope that the latter would happen, as I love how you can create a route, walk it and bloom many Big flowers during it; a bit of Dandori during walking. Just making a route and going through, without any stress is the best thing (IMO) about this game.

Sorry for the yapping, thanks for coming to my TEDx Talk

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